People have been inquiring about the results of the Dash for Cash on Sunday evening’s GMC Rangeland Derby.
Troy Dorchester was the winner with a time of 1:18.40
Second place went to Doug Irvine, who had a time of 1:18.41
Third place went to Gary Gorst at 1:19.68
Fourth place to Jason Glass, whose running time of 1:18.29 was subject to a two second penalty for wagon interference at the start of the race. The penalty was imposed by the chuckwagon judges.
The Calgary Stampede supports the decision of the race judges.
*Update on July 19, 2012
We’ve had a lot of comments about the result of heat 9.
To recap, Jason Glass (Barrel #2) did cross the finish line ahead of Troy Dorchester (Barrel #4), but was not the winner of the race due to a two second interference penalty.
We’re going to provide three things that will help explain the ruling. This is out of the ordinary, but we acknowledge the level of interest from fans.
- Firstly, some responses to the main questions fans are asking.
- Secondly, some still photos from the track video feed that the judges would have referred to in their ruling (this is a different feed from the CBC feed). You should also know that earlier this week, I invited Jason Glass to review the track video and he declined.
- Thirdly, chuckwagon commentator Billy Melville has offered his independent account of the race. It will appear as a comment to keep the length of this post manageable.
The Rangeland Derby has a review system in place unique to the sport of chuckwagon racing. Unlike many sports (e.g. football, hockey, tennis) where referees make calls during the play, we are fortunate in that our judges have the benefit of studying the various camera angles and slow motion replays before assessing penalties. They are also given the power to delay making a ruling until they are certain of their decision. And just like other sports, not everyone will agree with every ruling. The judges must have the complete authority to render a binding decision.
I trust this will put to rest to the claims of an unfair ruling.
Thanks – Keith
Why weren’t the final heat results (and championship) explained to the fans, sponsors and the drivers?
We agree that the communication surrounding heat 9 results could have been better. Because we are trying to create anticipation and excitement for the championship presentation that goes live on stage, our normal practice is not to put heat 9 results up on the boards, or make verbal mention of the results. As soon as the winner is announced in front of the live audience, the onstage announcer cannot review penalties and placement of all the wagons in the heat as the production is moving too fast and we are focused on the winner of the Derby. A similar situation happened in 2009 with Chad Harden winning after another driver took a penalty but also crossed the finish line first. That penalty was probably more apparent to those watching, but no explanation was provided to the audience. We will review this process for future with an intent to better communicate to the audience so that they can better understand the race results.
It looked as though Gary Gorst’s wagon was out of lane. Did that force Jason Glass out of lane? Why was Glass penalized?
The Rangeland Derby does not have an out of lane rule. Being out of lane is permissible, providing that it does not create interference with another wagon. The judges ruled that Gary Gorst’s lane position did not cause Jason Glass to go into lane 1 and determined that there was adequate room for Glass to be safely positioned between the Gorst and Irvine wagons. The judges ruled Glass’ wagon interfered with Irvine’s. You’ll see three still images below from footage used by the judges to render their decision.
Image 1 – as Glass turns into off his bottom barrel, onto track he’s clearly heading into lane 1 with no pressure on his outside. Irvine makes a tight turn into his lane at the bottom of his barrel.
Image 2 shows Irvine and Glass in the same lane. Irvine is where he is supposed to be. Glass is inside of lane marker, with no pressure outside.
And as you look at Image 3 you can see Glass’ right leader on top of the lane 1 marker.
So when the CBC commentator said “Doug Irvine comes a little wide….” referencing Irvine’s turn on the bottom barrel, he was mistaken. Irvine made a tight turn into the middle of lane 1, his designated lane. The video replay clearly shows it is Glass’ wagon that is in Irvine’s lane by a full wagon width and the chalk mark in question is in fact the number 1 lane marker. In the end, Irvine did not swing wide and Gorst’s wagon is permitted to be in lane 2 as long as it does not create interference with another wagon, which it did not.
What is the exact procedure for judging?
All judging is done in the video replay room located in the Eye in the Sky. There are 8 judges (4 wagon and 4 barrel) reviewing each race for penalties and infractions. Four ‘spotters’ are located around the track, providing information back to the judges. Four cameras provide unique angles and views of the races, not available to the live or at home audience. The judging coordinator leads the eight judges through a thorough review of every race, utilizing a variety of camera angles, slow motion replay and image freezing. The judge’s decision is usually determined by the start of the next race, but may take longer in certain circumstances in order to ensure a proper decision has been made. The emphasis is upon making the right calls, even if more time is required.





Mr Marrington,
Have you considered the impact that public opinion will have on sponsorship for Rangeland Derby 2013? You might want to consider some serious damage control. Your unconditional support of the questionable judgment is fiscally risky and pure arrogance on your part. You appear to be desperate in your defence, specifically, when you state Jason declined your invitation to view the tapes … 48 hours after the dash when he was in Bonnyville and you were in Calgary with the tapes (you neglected to include those pertinent details in your statement). Make no mistake, sponsors are closely following this blog. Your defence of the judging of the dash and your blatant disregard for the opinions and concerns of the patrons of chuckwagon racing is jeopardizing. Your credibiility is both questionable and lacking.Perhaps now is the appropriate time to fall on your sword and show (prove) that you respect the drivers, the rules, the sport, the sponsors and the paying patrons. My position remains with the majority, that Jason Glass won the dash . Period. Make it right Mr. Marrington.
Watched at least a thousand Calgary Stampede chuckwagon races, half of them live,over the years. I have watched this race a dozen times on replays. I definately cannot see a major interference that affected the outcome of the race. What other sport can you get a hundred thousand dollar penalty on judges discretion? Obviously from this blog, the fans do not believe there was interference. The outrage might not be so great, if the penalty was not so great. Troy ran a great race, and there would be a lot less outrage if Jason were given a hundred thousand dollar purse.
One point of order on my previous blog, according to the films of the race, it appeared that contact was made between 2 drivers. As spectators we cannot confirm this, only the drivers involved know for definite. The judges review this film, and the calls they make are based on it on how things appear from the film.
I can only base my anayais on how things appeared to me on the film, and I apologize for any implications I may have made that I cannot confirm 100%.
I talked to Jason Glass personally and he would like all of the talk to end. His first love is for his horses and he would never put any of them at risk. To overcome adversity is a common trait among champions, and although he is heartbroken right now, Jason Glass will overcome his disappointment like the champion he is. Out of respect for Jason and his family, let this be the end of it.
Billy m
I have been a chuckwagon fan and supporter for 35+ years and I understand the rules and the quick decisions that have to be made on the track nightly. I agree with most of the call and I did that night. CBC had one great camera angle that showed the same as the still shots shown above. Doug was not out of lane no matter what any of you “fans” say. Jason was clearly into the #1 barrel lane, that is clearly a penalty. Gary Gorst was out of lane but and I mean BUT, the rules clearly state that if the driver is a full Wagon length(just Wagon & NOT Wagon and horses) ahead of the Lead team of the other wagon, that driver can pull over into that lane. Again the CBC showed a camera angle that showed this. I know that everyone LOVES Jason Glass, and I think he’s a GREAT Driver, but the fact was that he came too close to Doug Irvine and put his horses and Doug’s horses in danger. I think that they could’ve given Gary a WOL Penalty just to make you all feel better but again there was enough room given to Gary for him to pull in.
Finally, there is split second decisions made on the track by drivers that sometimes cost them penalties and sometimes win them races but the judges have the tools so that they DO NOT have to make split second decisions any more. This is a great thing that this sport did not have 20 years ago. Keep up the good work Judges.
P.S. I am not a Judge, I am just a fan that reacts with his head and not his heart.
$90,000 is too stiff a fine. Change the rulings on judges discretion penalties that they affect times not purses. Give Jason $100,000. If the stampede has to pay an extra $90,000 do they still believe the judges are right???
comments on Tom Glass not fair. If Troy had run Jasons race, off the two barrel, Tom would have still said the penalty was not right, and that surprise trophy presentation on stage was not right either.
I find it interesting that the first whisper of “wagon contact” as being the interference appeared in Billy Melville’s comments on July 19, four days after the actual race! Up until that point it’s been round and round with who’s out of lane and who’s squeezing who. Those didn’t shut anyone up so now we’ll try wagon contact. It doesn’t sound like that’s going to fly either. If the judges can’t make up their minds what the interference call was for, four days after the fact, perhaps they never knew at all, but needed to cover their “you know whats” the best they could. You know, when something is dead wrong no amount of backpeddling is going to make sense or settle the troops! The longer this drags out CS, the more credibility you lose and only you can make it right so everyone can move on, including you.
Mr. Marrington,
All of these comments are emploring you to show a photo showing contact between Irvine and Glass. By CHOOSING not to you leave people no choice but to question the ruling. Not one driver has supported the contact you are saying is evident. It’s shameful what this ruling has forced this sport to endure.
You have every opportunity to right this wrong, your attempts to date have failed to do so.
To ask Jason to meet you 2 days later is flat out ridiculous and have no appeal process is beyond reproach. What would an appeal hurt if you have indeed made the correct decision.
Choose to fix this mistake, it’s a forgiving society we live in but you need to attempt a solution not going silent and hiding behind a computer and a blog.
After reading Mr Marrington’s pointed remark that Jason declined coming to view the tapes which was at best a half truth I am inclined to believe this is nothing more than a coverup.
My husband and I have enjoyed the chucks for 45 years and this year we are so disillusioned that very poor judging determined the winner. We weren’t cheering for anyone in particular but wanted to see a fair race and a deserving winner.
What else could the Stampede do or say except that they were in agreement with the judging. Oh yes! perhaps they could have done the right thing, admitted they made a mistake and awarded the money and accolades to both drivers after acknowledging that the judges goofed up.
Nothing at all in the pictures shown indicates a penalty. This incident has done nothing to enhance the already poor press the chuckwagon races have received.
We are sorry Jason that you were robbed of your victory!
So I hate to say this but I have read your blog over and over and I just want to point a few things out…
If you dont have an out of lane ruling why was there not just Flat out interference called on Gary?
You identify the pictures but where is the mention in image on that Gary is clearly in Jasons Lane?
Image 2 clearly shows Gary in Jasons lane…. and as you look at three you can see Gary in lane 2 again….. why was that not said…
All the judging is done in a room…. were all in a room too its called our living room and I think that the fans should have some sort of a say in this…. The majority is ruling here.. Congragulations to Troy Dorchester but really in all reality there was a mistake made here and someone needs to fix it. Or at least explain this better to the fans cause were all clearly seeing this right..
OK I was not going to comment any further until recent comments. The rule is that it is an automatic penalty if contact is made. Now your telling me the penalted was issued because there appeared to be contact. Appeared to be contact is not contact. This is total BS you don’t even know that contact was made where in the race it was made or what part of the horses or wagons made contact. What a careless and reckless decision. Show inconvertible proof or reward Jason for a race he won.
Calgary Stampede Committee Chairman, Mark Damm, has made the following statement regarding alleged contact: ” I was in the Eye in the Sky…I clearly saw the contact and sparks fly…that is what I saw. No more comment…”
I am getting a little ticked that the Calgary Stampede is implying that fans are upset because it was Jason Glass and they are upset on an emotional level. That’s total BS I actually could not care either way. What I hate is a bad call which effects the outcome of any game or sport. I just want to see proof to back up your call. I want to know if the backend of the lane 1 wagon skidded sideways into lane 2 based on your photos it looks clear to me that it does. What I don’t like about your explanation is your trying to project those lane markers backwards when infact the lanes curve to the right and over to the barrels. Obviously you have the video proof or some other evidence that shows actual contact between wagons and what lane that contact was made in so show it.
Congrats to Jason we know who won
They are judge for a reason just because Tom wants or thinks his son should win does not make it right. CBC needs to get a new color comminator who know wagons and is not so conseated on his own family. All the drivers are great and they all make mistakes and usually pay the price for the errors that they make. I didn’t see anything about Tom’s nephew; losing a horse in Bonnyville maybe becaue it was one of the ones Jason traded to him I wonder why!!!
Mr. Marrington. Thank you for providing an explanation. As a long-time patron of the Stampede, I respectfully disagree with judges’ decision.
A measure of a good official is not only by the calls that are made but many times by the calls that are not made. Today in sports we see too many officials believing they are an integral part of the game. The best officials are those you don’t even notice. Granted, when infractions occur, penalties must follow to maintain the integrity of the competition. However, in this case it seems the officials interjected themselves into a race that was clearly decided on the track.
I have yet to see a still photo or video of the race that shows Mr. Glass touching Mr. Irvine’s wagon or interfering with Mr. Irvine’s wagon in such a way that impeded his wagon or his horses. In fact based on Mr. Irvine’s quote in the Okotoks paper the day after the race it appears that not even he was sure if there was contact.
There is much to be said about the adage – let the game be decided on the court, or on the ice, or on the field of play or in this case, on the track and not in a room high in the Grandstand by several judges reviewing and re-reviewing a video to determine if in fact there may have been any sort of contact. Everyone who watched the race and everyone who participated in the race new the winner the instant the wagons crossed the finish line. It was a fantastic finish to a great race and a great end to the 100th Stampede. It wasn’t until 15 minutes later when the judges interjected themselves into the competition with a suspect interference call that the race turned ugly.
ON DAY EIGHT IN THE RUNOFF FOR THE FINAL FOUR JASON AND IRVINE WERE IN THE SAME HEAT. ON THE HOME STRETCH IRVINE WAS LEADING ON THE RAIL. JASON WAS RIGHT BEHIND HIM ON THE RAIL. IRVINE LOOKED BACK AND SAW JASON AND HE IMMEDIATELY PULLED OVER TO THE SECOND LANE AND ALLOWED JASON TO PASS AND WIN THE RACE.IT MAY HAVE BEEN ON THE LAST TURN, NOT SURE ABOUT THAT. HOWEVER IS THAT ALLOWED?
I HOPE THAT CBC GETS ANOTHER COLOR MAN FOR THE NEXT STAMPEDE. ITS NOT REALLY FAIR FOR JASON TO HAVE HIS DAD ON THE SHOW AND TOM HAS TO MANY CONNECTIONS WITH THE CONTESTANTS.PLUS HE IS SO OBVIOUSLY BIAS.
The officials screwed up ,own it and make it right ,,,,
When I watched CBC I too was convinced that Jason got a raw deal. Now seeing the pictures above from a different angle it is quite obvious that Jason was the one out of lane.
The lesson here – it’s all in the angles so don’t judge until you have seen them all.
Hockey fans see this all the time on replays. What looked like “no goal” is often an obvious “goal” when the angle is changed.
The judges got it right. If they can clean up the communication gaffes, that will help, but bottom line is they got it right. At the end of the day, no matter what sport, all you want is the right call made – unless you are a homer.
ERROR!!! IT WAS COSGRAVE NOT IRVINE
SORRY FOR THE MIS STEP.
Congradulations to Troy Dorchester won it fair and square and the average to boot which is where the big money should go anyway.